<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9203279421625687035</id><updated>2012-02-16T05:46:49.234-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Methodist Preacher's Guest Page</title><subtitle type='html'>This is the guest page of 
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It provides a forum for discussion within the Methodist community</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9203279421625687035/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>David</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>5</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9203279421625687035.post-6184578512401298892</id><published>2011-06-20T00:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-20T00:23:17.726-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Israeli Nurse and the hi-jack of British Methodism</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;An Israeli Nurse with good memories of the people called Methodist has written this biting critique of the disgraceful hijack of our good name by a grisly&amp;nbsp; bunch of&amp;nbsp; well known anti-Semites. It first appeared on the &lt;a href="http://cifwatch.com/2011/06/16/the-great-methodist-bds-hijack/"&gt;CIF Watch website&lt;/a&gt; and is reproduced here with permission: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Until this time last year, whenever I thought of Methodists, I thought of pressed blue flowers. The explanation behind that perhaps strange-sounding connection is that as a small &amp;nbsp;child in England I grew up with Methodist next-door neighbours and in 1961 they became the first people I knew who travelled to Israel after the country’s independence. When they returned, they gave me some tiny blue flowers which they had picked on the Mount of the Beatitudes and carefully pressed in their Bibles. At the time, I had never seen flowers like them and I still keep them, wrapped inside yellowed paper with Annie’s spidery handwriting on it: “A present from Galilee”.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Fifty years on, I can see the Mount of Beatitudes and its glorious array of spring flowers from my home. Unfortunately, since last year I can also see a different kind of Methodist to the ones I knew who not only respected their neighbours’ different faiths, but practised Interfaith relations before anyone had ever heard of the term by cultivating the common ground between themselves and others.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_25020" style="width: 500px;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://commentisfreewatch.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/dsc00240-2.jpg"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" class="size-full wp-image-25020" height="328" src="http://commentisfreewatch.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/dsc00240-2.jpg?w=490&amp;amp;h=328" title="SONY DSC" width="490" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;The octagonal Methodist Chapel, Heptonstall, UK&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;At the end of this month the Methodist Church will be holding its annual council in Southport. On the agenda is an update to the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://hurryupharry.org/2010/07/02/methodists-boycott-israel-citing-new-covenant-with-god/"&gt;decision taken at last year’s conference&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; to boycott Israeli goods from certain regions of the country. &amp;nbsp;The text of the paper to be presented can be seen by clicking on MC1165 on &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.methodist.org.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=opentogod.content&amp;amp;cmid=3439"&gt;this list&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;From that text one gathers that the Methodist Church appears for some inexplicable reason to have been rather surprised by the reactions to its boycott decision and that attempts have been made to contain the damage by engaging with the Board of Deputies of British Jews.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;In &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.fodip.org/articles/methandboard.pdf"&gt;this exchange of letters&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; the current President of the Methodist council assures the BoD that her church “[u]nequivocally affirms the right of Israel to exist as an independent state and in security and peace alongside a Palestinian state” and “[a]bsolutely opposes antisemitism in all its forms”.&amp;nbsp; Those claims cannot be accepted as genuine so long as the Methodist Church continues to work with, promote and support people and organisations involved in the assault on Israel’s legitimacy with the ultimate aim of denying the Jewish people’s right to self-determination by bringing an end to the Jewish state.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Document MC1165 recommends to its church members a number of organisations as sources of valid information on the subject of the Israel/Arab conflict. One of those organisations is “Rediscovering Palestine” which includes among &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rediscoveringpalestine.org.uk/Our%20Members.html"&gt;its members&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; the Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood linked &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/English/eng_n/html/ipc_e171.htm"&gt;‘Palestinian Return Centre’&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; which is outlawed by Israel. Other members include the non-transparently funded &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://cifwatch.com/2011/06/12/the-hate-and-extremism-at-the-heart-of-efforts-to-manipulate-another-scottish-council-to-boycott-israel/"&gt;Palestine Solidarity Campaign&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ngo-monitor.org/article/israel_committee_against_house_demolitions_icahd_"&gt;ICHAD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;, Friends of Birzeit (the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://propagandistmag.com/2011/03/24/education-incitement"&gt;university with the distinction&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; of having produced numerous suicide bombers and PACBI), &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://cifwatch.com/2011/05/22/friends-of-sabeel-uk-promoting-bds-and-harming-interfaith-relations/"&gt;Friends of Sabeel UK&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; which embraces Naim Ateek’s offensive supersessionism theology, and the AM Qattan Foundation which, among other things,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="http://al-shabaka.org/about/who-we-are"&gt;funds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; an organisation named &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://propagandistmag.com/2011/02/02/j-street-pro-who-pro-what"&gt;Al Shabaka&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; which is involved in undermining the Palestinian Authority’s peace negotiations with Israel. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Also on the list is &lt;a href="http://www.ngo-monitor.org/article/christian_aid_uk_"&gt;Christian Aid&lt;/a&gt;, and&amp;nbsp;the radical NGO&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.ngo-monitor.org/article/war_on_want_uk_"&gt;War on Want&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; – who produced this&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=lsKWLbPJLnF&amp;amp;b=4924937&amp;amp;ct=6420955"&gt;Christmas card&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;with a picture of Israeli soldiers conducting a body search of Joseph, and a pregnant Mary on a donkey, blocked on their way to Bethlehem:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://commentisfreewatch.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/christmas-card.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25024" height="286" src="http://commentisfreewatch.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/christmas-card.jpg?w=392&amp;amp;h=286" title="CHRISTMAS-CARD" width="392" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Last but not least there is the&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.ngo-monitor.org/article/amos_trust"&gt;Amos Trust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; which is also the organisation behind &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.justpeaceforpalestine.org/about_us.aspx"&gt;‘Just Peace for Palestine&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;‘&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; (also promoted by the Methodist Church) which employs &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://cifwatch.com/cif-contributors/ben-white/"&gt;Ben White&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; – author of the odious book ‘Israeli Apartheid – A Beginner’s Guide’.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.benwhite.org.uk/2011/05/31/turning-the-right-of-return-into-reality/"&gt;Ben White’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; book also appears on the ‘Rediscovering Palestine’ recommended reading list on the subject of the conflict – as promoted by the Methodist Church. Unsurprisingly, most of the books there are virulently anti-Zionist and include works by Naim Ateek and other Sabeel activists such as Jean Zaru and Elias Chacour as well as many of its sympathisers such as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.altro.co.il/newsletters/show/875?key=98fdad36372f2fb76dd427df183ba7f2"&gt;Jeff Halper of ICHAD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; and Donald Wagner. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Other authors included on the list are Ilan Pappe, Garth Hewitt of the Amos Trust, Shlomo Sand with his highly offensive and academically suspect &lt;/span&gt;“&lt;a href="http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&amp;amp;x_outlet=118&amp;amp;x_article=1776"&gt;The Invention of the Jewish People&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;” and of course Amos Trust and Friends of Sabeel UK activist Stephen Sizer, who recently &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://hurryupharry.org/2011/06/05/spreading-the-bad-news-stephen-sizer-speaks-at-viva-palestina-malaysia/"&gt;visited Malaysia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; as a guest of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://hurryupharry.org/2011/06/13/sizer-zionists-hand-in-hand-with-edl-buy-politicians-in-usa/"&gt;Hamas supporting&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; outfit ‘Viva Palestina’.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Should the Methodist Church’s endorsement of such extremist organisations and literature come as a shock? Indeed it would have once, but if one has read the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&amp;amp;pid=gmail&amp;amp;attid=0.1&amp;amp;thid=13053e32a9da7398&amp;amp;mt=application/msword&amp;amp;url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D79788d4931%26view%3Datt%26th%3D13053e32a9da7398%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26zw&amp;amp;sig=AHIEtbQktAGog886q2r2MEE8ghtS7BqUwQ&amp;amp;pli=1"&gt;report produced by its working party&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; last year upon which the decision to engage in a boycott was based and noted the sources used in the compilation of that report, one would be aware that many of the above mentioned authors, along with other highly biased sources, form its backbone. That fact, of course, resulted in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.hudson-ny.org/2190/british-methodists-palestine-germany"&gt;gross historic inaccuracy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; becoming the report’s most outstanding feature. That, in turn, ensured that rank and file Methodists were unable to make an informed decision on the subject.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;But of course the Methodist working party did not produce such a biased and inaccurate report merely as a result of chance or bad luck; it was programmed to do so from its very inception. Its members were &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&amp;amp;q=cache:F8cjYXv13JwJ:www.methodist.org.uk/downloads/coun-1039-israel-palestine-290310.pdf+reverend+marian+jones+methodist+%26+israel&amp;amp;hl=iw&amp;amp;gl=il&amp;amp;pid=bl&amp;amp;srcid=ADGEESjAATq8MFqAXvlNqv6Ix1dBx8LSzNipqyxUuUsiY7YvCv40zUtmI3VNdEbIGhz_OULs_ftcq_L6QXJ90iE_2CUgrXnVOamBMcMFaYA4Dh2LZZEcPb_S02HTDdKfqNLXZZ_zhK43&amp;amp;sig=AHIEtbS7wju41GYmxYx1d1yscWRCkCAnlw"&gt;obliged in advance&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; to “affirm that they are in agreement with&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&amp;amp;q=cache:XSyRtep5V9QJ:www.methodist.org.uk/downloads/pi_ipconfresolutions02-009_0809.pdf+reverend+alan+ashton+%26+israel&amp;amp;hl=iw&amp;amp;gl=il&amp;amp;pid=bl&amp;amp;srcid=ADGEESgiHLI0cFpOTRfDVJmvOsTUaI2aB5bVyLF-vhY9vAsDbIpFqCklhlBB8-mNIXO7GzaD6GvMNA_9gViLU7ppUDuq47Rlhuz3czXTr2ZBuLu8j8LaxZiHO2aLI6Y8fHr3G5PkBFTV&amp;amp;sig=AHIEtbQxyRMFVzYLWBqlELzWX6LL3rZ3Gw"&gt;previously stated&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; Conference positions on the occupation”. Calls for a greater diversity of opinion among working party members were &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.methodist.org.uk/downloads/coun-0980-israel-palestine-110909.pdf"&gt;deemed unhelpful&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“Requests have been received that the group should be “balanced” and contain members&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;who are not in agreement with Conference statements.&amp;nbsp; This is not believed to be a&amp;nbsp;constructive approach given the remit of the group.” &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;And so, a working party made up of people with remarkably homogenous opinions and guaranteed to come up with the ‘right’ result was formed. Its members and their qualifications for the task were described as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Revd. Graham Carter (Chair) – former President of the Methodist Conference.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Revd. Alan Ashton – over 32 years experience of living there and visiting, with family living in the West Bank.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Revd. Warren Bardsley – returned accompanier with the Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Dr. Elizabeth Harris – Senior Lecturer in Comparative Study of Religion, Hope University.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Steve Hucklesby – Policy Advisor, Joint Public Issues Team.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Revd. Nicola Jones – member of Friends of Sabeel and frequent traveller.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Revd. Marian Jones&amp;nbsp; – frequent traveller with contacts in Israel/Palestine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Dr. Stephen Leah – Peace campaigner with contacts in the UK peace and justice community and in Israel/Palestine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Revd. Sam McBratney – involvement in university programme with students from Gaza and Israel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Predictably, the Methodist document makes no mention of the engagement of some of the above in reactionary politics or their associations with extremist organisations, but once those connections are clear, it is more than obvious that the Methodist Church has been steered by a committed group of activists into waters more coloured by politics than theology.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;The motion to engage in a boycott of Israeli goods was proposed by Revd. Nichola Jones who is – as stated above – a long- time member of ‘Friends of Sabeel UK’. Like the leader of the parent organisation Sabeel, Naim Ateek, she appears to have jumped on board the supersessionism bandwagon. Whatever the theological arguments behind that, Methodists should be aware that not only is such theology deeply offensive to Jews, but that it is employed by Sabeel in order to&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="http://hurryupharry.org/2009/02/17/trojan-horse-theology/"&gt;promote anti-Zionism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;. At the 2010 conference&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; &lt;a href="http://sites.cantos.com/the_methodist_conference/10/archive1/public/?type=v&amp;amp;band=bb&amp;amp;format=flv&amp;amp;i=4&amp;amp;sec=3&amp;amp;url=/the_methodist_conference/10/archive1/public/content/video/methodist-z005-bb-v-3.xml"&gt;Nichola Jones said&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; ( at 73 mins):&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“In the Bible we learn of the&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;Chosen People&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. Who are they and what were they chosen for? Genesis tells us again &amp;amp; again that God chooses Abraham and makes a covenant with Abraham &amp;amp; his heirs: a covenant being&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;a two-sided agreement with obligations on both parties&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, like marriage……Of course,&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;Israel today is not the same&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;as Israel in the Bible: in the Bible, Israel refers to the people of Abraham’s descendants,&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;who are in covenant with God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. Israel today is a modern, secular state, created in 1948…….&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;For years I cherished the Galatian text…now I read it properly: ‘In Christ there is no longer male or female, slave or free, Jew or Greek (we could say Jew or Arab): we are all one in Christ.’&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;We are heirs of Abraham, and so inheritors of the promise of Abraham.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Jesus, who makes with us a&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;new covenant&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;which transforms us utterly, never speaks of the land or owning it: he speaks of the Kingdom &amp;amp; joining it and invites us to do so. He teaches us&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;God is not a racist God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;with favourites, but God loves all his children &amp;amp; blesses them&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Nichola Jones&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&amp;amp;q=cache:naOHsL6cHcIJ:www.sabeel.org/datadir/en-events/ev167/files/FINAL%2520PROGRAM%25202011%2520CONFERENCE.pdf+rev+nichola+g+jones+%26+sabeel&amp;amp;hl=iw&amp;amp;gl=il&amp;amp;pid=bl&amp;amp;srcid=ADGEESgOwBV62YEp2GwJY_MkFPlPZwf1js4xZPc_2ANLC31ckP2QZqYV4ica-OW9BkfoNh3OEdPJXvYYU0LIU5nzH-0nwHwaMhRrmFonGagF3DC0nCWnpK9Y64rRTSYYmj5srGE8vmJ6&amp;amp;sig=AHIEtbQ8pmbk2eBgWB1t4XQ6eFJPtxylIQ"&gt;attended the 2011 Sabeel Conference&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; together with other members of the British Methodist Church including its President and Vice-President. Anyone who is aware of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DRIT=5&amp;amp;DBID=1&amp;amp;LNGID=1&amp;amp;TMID=111&amp;amp;FID=625&amp;amp;PID=0&amp;amp;IID=5925&amp;amp;TTL=Updating_the_Ancient_Infrastructure_of_Christian_Contempt"&gt;Sabeel’s record&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; and its commitment to campaigning for a one-state ‘solution’ (i.e. the end of the Jewish state) should be deeply worried by the close co-operation between the two organizations.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;The seconder of the BDS motion was Revd. Stephen Leah. He was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://seismic-shock.com/2010/06/19/dr-stephen-leah-the-anti-israel-methodists/"&gt;rather disappointed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; that his church only agreed to boycott goods from certain areas in Israel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“&amp;nbsp;I personally would like to have divestment going a little bit further into the full boycott of Israel, but I know how much I can get away with in the churches sometimes. [...] Churches are paranoid about being critical of Israel sometimes, they want to be balanced all the time, we must put pressure on church leaders.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Of course that stance is perfectly understandable when one appreciates the fact that Leah is also &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://cifwatch.com/2011/04/16/lessons-from-the-york-pogrom-of-1190/"&gt;the chairman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.yorkpsc.org.uk/branch-matters/annual-report-2008-2009-1"&gt;York branch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign. In his spare time he &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cc-vw.org/sermons/john1christmas.htm"&gt;re-writes Christmas carols&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; which are in turn promoted by &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/07/stephen-sizer-accuses-evangelicals-now-of-equivalent-to-holocaust-denial/"&gt;Stephen Sizer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; at his Virginia Water church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“O Little Town of Bethlehem&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Imprisoned you now lie.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Above thy deep and silent grief,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Surveillance drones now fly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;And through thy old streets standeth,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;A huge illegal Wall.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;The hopes and dreams that peace will come&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Are dashed in this year’s Fall.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Another member of the working party with PSC connections is Revd. Warren Bardsley who has appeared as a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.palestinecampaign.org/index9b.asp?m_id=1&amp;amp;l1_id=4&amp;amp;l2_id=99&amp;amp;Content_ID=1438&amp;amp;godate=00:00:00"&gt;speaker for the PSC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; promoting the &lt;a href="http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&amp;amp;x_outlet=118&amp;amp;x_article=1856" target="_blank"&gt;Kairos Document&lt;/a&gt; as well as organizing demonstrations on behalf of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.westmidspsc.org/"&gt;PSC West Midlands branch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; and meetings for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.actionpalestine.org/home/demonstrations/"&gt;Action Palestine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;. Bardsley is also the Midlands representative for ‘Friends of Sabeel UK’.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Revd. Alan Ashton makes no secret about his support for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions, having signed up (along with Stephen Leah, Marian Jones and Warren Bardsley) to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://rideforpalestine.blogspot.com/"&gt;this campaign&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; – complete with Tim Biles’ infamous fake maps of so-called ‘land grab’ which were also used in the working party’s report.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Dr Elizabeth Harris is probably best remembered for her&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="http://hurryupharry.org/2011/05/07/methodist-church-implies-that-only-european-jews-suffered-in-holocaust/"&gt;more than unfortunate remarks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; relating to a visit to Yad Vashem, which were made in a section &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&amp;amp;q=cache:TsBCorATpMgJ:www.methodist.org.uk/downloads/pi_ipjewishmuslimperspectives_0308.pdf+%22Michael+Ipgrave%22+jews&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;gl=uk&amp;amp;pid=bl&amp;amp;srcid=ADGEEShiCiUdeMzliUXasAm5FdVLLoxIq-7FTv-uQx2-pm4QL5dWRWYEKH4fCbRZpn94cz2COpDpnPih0HPxQjpKUwAwhWd9PYS-edtl4PeE_56Ricwv-gQBZXKEl2gjCMmOlbOGwvU1&amp;amp;sig=AHIEtbSXNpKQmuMJpptMIqNAcDBRMGAZqg"&gt;her paper&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; entitled “Jewish perspectives” under the sub-heading “An ethos of victimhood”. The document later had to be removed from the Methodist website.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“A pilgrimage through the exhibition rooms of the Centre, which bring home both the horror of the Holocaust and the vigour of Jewish resistance, brings you out in the open air, overlooking the beauty of Jerusalem. This perspective is transmitted to young Israelis through visits to Yad Vashem organised by schools and other groups. When I visited the Centre with a group from Britain,&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;I noticed that many visitors were not of European Jewish descent.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;As Michael Ipgrave, then Secretary of the Churches’ Commission for Inter Faith Relations, wrote in his report of the visit:&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;‘The Holocaust has come to serve as a national story embracing also Oriental Jews for whom this was not part of their family history.’ Peace groups in Israel&amp;nbsp;have to work against this backdrop.&lt;/b&gt;” (emphasis added)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Dr. Harris then went on to claim that “[w]hat is given at Yad Vashem is an interpretation of history” and that “[c]ollective memory of the Holocaust also feeds into an ethos of victimhood within the Jewish community”. Beyond the obvious fact that only a couple of generations ago two-thirds of European Jewry were indeed victims of the most extreme kind of European antisemitism and few families in Israel are untouched by that fact in one way or another, one cannot but also wonder how Harris became such an expert on Jewish group psychology and mark the deep contrast between her lack of sympathy for the biggest tragedy the Jewish nation has known to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christiantoday.com/article/methodist.statement.on.the.cartoon.controversy/5252.htm"&gt;her 2006 statement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; on the subject of the Mohammed cartoons in which she stressed “the responsibility to draw back from causing deliberate provocation or offence”. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Steve Hucklesby has been issuing statements on behalf of the Methodist Church for several years in his capacity as Secretary for International Affairs. Many of them show a profound lack of understanding of the situation in the Middle East and yet despite that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.methodist.org.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=churchlife.content&amp;amp;cmid=1239"&gt;he is listed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; as one of the church’s ‘experts’ on Israel. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christiantoday.com/article/methodists.seek.end.to.gaza.blockade/21901.htm"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;, for example, he makes uninformed and irresponsible statements on the subject of the Gaza blockade, failing to recognize that humanitarian aid has been transported daily into Gaza unless terror attacks on the crossings made that impossible.&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/news_syndication/article_06082meths.shtml"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; he is voicing his opinions on the 2006 Lebanon war, when the Methodist Church was apparently very worried about the plight of Lebanese children but found nothing to say about Israeli ones bombarded by over 4,000 Hizbollah missiles.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Earlier this year, Hucklesby organized and participated in a visit to ‘Israel/Palestine’ together with the President and Vice-president of the Methodist Church. As can be seen from their &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://methodist-presandvp.blogspot.com/2011/03/visit-to-israelpalestine.html"&gt;blogposts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;, there was significantly more ‘Palestine’ than ‘Israel’ in the tour and the few Israelis they did meet seemed to be mostly of the far-Left variety such as ICHAD and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ngo-monitor.org/article/rabbis_for_human_rights"&gt;Rabbis for Human Rights&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;. The trip was rounded off with a visit to the Sabeel Conference and a chat with the British Consul in Jerusalem who recently attended the Bil’in conference together with the proscribed terror organization the PFLP and the DFLP. &amp;nbsp;Apparently, the Methodist dignitaries felt no need to meet up with mainstream Israelis, let alone the people whose livelihoods they are attempting to harm with their boycott, which just goes to show that convictions do not always go together with courage.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Hucklesby also blogged individually about the trip and in a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://jointpublicissues.blogspot.com/2011/03/greetings-from-hebron_02.html"&gt;post about Hevron&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;, his apparently uncontrollable bias oozes from practically every sentence but even so, it takes considerable effort to revise history to the extent which he achieves.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“We arrive at the Ibrahimi Mosque (the Tomb of the Patriarchs) a site that is holy to both&amp;nbsp;Muslims and Jews.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In 1994 a Jewish settler&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs_massacre"&gt;shot 29 Palestinians dead&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;while they prayed. Following that act, Israeli authorities turned one-third of the Mosque into a synagogue.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Working party member Sam McBratney also &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://sammcbratney.blogspot.com/search/label/holy%20land"&gt;visited the region in 2008&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; for the first time. Unlike his colleagues above, he did spend some time in Israel, but appears to have found little Christian tolerance in his heart for the local way of life.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“Why is it, for example, that pedestrians are treated so badly in this country? Again and again, walking along minding my own business, the pavement suddenly disappeared altogether. Or worse still, drivers feel no compunction at mounting the pavement and parking right across the walkway. Don’t ever daydream in Israel or the chances are you’ll be mowed down by a bloody scooter weaving its way along the PAVEMENT – what part of footpath don’t they understand?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; Maybe it’s a state secret or part of the security operation but would it kill someone to put bus routes on a piece of paper and make it widely available? What do they call those things? Oh, I know, a MAP! Negotiating buses and fares is nightmarish to say the least. So, of course, that makes tourists reliant on taxis. Plenty to choose from, sadly it seems, most drivers are out to fleece you.”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Obviously nobody told Revd. McBratney that Israel is a nation which is technologically at least on a par with his native country and that we have a dandy little thing here called ‘the internet’ – accessible from the laptop he obviously had with him – where bus timetables are readily available. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;The members of the Methodist working group on Israel/Palestine are obviously not unintelligent people and yet it is quite difficult to believe that mature adults could be so gullible as to accept every politically motivated distortion and fabrication they are fed as being gospel truth. But unfortunately the holders of extremist ideologies often have a tendency to picture the world in neat compartments of good and bad, black and white.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Sadly for the Methodist Church, it is apparently being led and coerced by such blindly partisan adherents to extremist political ideologies at present. It is this fact which made the adoption of the boycott motion inevitable last year and it is this fact which will have to be addressed by the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/47876/methodist-minister-silenced-israel"&gt;rank and file members&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; of the Methodist Church if they wish to return to the values of their faith rather than being tools in the hands of a small group of extremist political activists.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9203279421625687035-6184578512401298892?l=methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com/feeds/6184578512401298892/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9203279421625687035&amp;postID=6184578512401298892' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9203279421625687035/posts/default/6184578512401298892'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9203279421625687035/posts/default/6184578512401298892'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com/2011/06/israeli-nurse-and-hi-jack-of-british.html' title='Israeli Nurse and the hi-jack of British Methodism'/><author><name>David</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9203279421625687035.post-140784006308426478</id><published>2011-06-05T08:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-05T08:21:55.377-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The kingdom anointing - power for service</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;&lt;xml&gt; 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text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Sometimes it is helpful to ask the Bible questions – like, “Why did Jesus not heal the sick or cast out demons until he was about 30 years old?”&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The answer may surprise some people, because it is quite simple, I would suggest, he could not heal the sick because he did not yet have the power, or the gifts of the Spirit that came through the anointing, which came upon him at his water Baptism when he was about thirty years of age. See Luke 3:22, 4:1, 4:14, Acts 10:38&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Jesus did not heal the sick because he was Divine but because he was a man, the Son of Man, anointed with the Holy Spirit and with Power.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Jesus of Nazareth, the carpenter man.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Before we explore the Anointing, let us look at the work of the Holy Spirit in the Life of Jesus, and discover a pattern for our own lives.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;1.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Was Jesus born of the Holy Spirit?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Yes, read Luke 1:35&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“The Holy Spirit will come upon you”… the angel said to Mary.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;2.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Did Jesus have a Divine Nature?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;- Yes, &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Luke 1:35&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“The Holy One to be born – will be called the Son of God.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;3.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Did Jesus live a perfect life and demonstrate all the fruits of the Spirit?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Yes&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Luke 1:32&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“The Holy One, - Son of the Most High” – “He will reign.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“Which of you accuses me of sin ?”&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;John 8:46 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;His perfection guarantees our salvation, -&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Hebrews 5:8-9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;So now let us compare our spiritual journey with that of Jesus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;1.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Do I have to be born of the Spirit?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Yes,&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;read John 3: 5 – 8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“You must be born again…. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;2.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Do I become the partaker of a Divine Nature?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Yes,&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;2 Peter 1:4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“You may partake of the Divine Nature and escape the corruption in the world.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;3.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Am I expected to live like Jesus and grow the fruits of the Spirit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; ?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Yes, Galatians 5:22&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“The fruit of the Spirit is Love, Joy, Peace, Patience…..”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“Since we live in the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit,”&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;5:25&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;So our spiritual journey is the same as that of Jesus – we are born again of the Holy Spirit, become partakers of the Divine Nature and manifest the fruits of the Holy Spirit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;But what about the Anointing of Jesus ?&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Acts 10:38 makes it clear that Jesus, the Son of Man – the human being we call, the Carpenter from Nazareth, who lived down the road, God anointed him with the Holy Spirit and with Power.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;1.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Was Jesus Anointed with the Holy Spirit ?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Yes – Acts 10:38, Luke 3:22, Luke 4 :18.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“The Spirit of the Lord is upon me because He has anointed me to…. preach, deliver heal. ”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;2.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Did Jesus receive Power to Minister?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; -&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Yes, &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Luke 4:1, 4 :14, &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;4:36.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“Jesus returned to Galilee in the Power of the Spirit”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“With authority and power he gives orders to the evil spirits and they come out.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“Laying hands on each one of them he healed them.”&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Luke 4:40&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;3.Did Jesus as the anointed Son of Man us the Gifts of the Holy Spirit?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Yes Luke 5 :17-26&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;In the healing of the Paralytic man….He used the gift of the Word of Knowledge&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“Friend your sins are forgiven“, Knowing that guilt was the root of the man’s problem.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The Gift of Discernment… to know what they were thinking?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Then the Gifts of Prophecy and faith and healing….&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Now let us compare the second phase of our spiritual journey with that of Jesus. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;1.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Do I need to be anointed with the Holy Spirit and Power.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Yes&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Luke 3:16&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“He will baptise you with the Holy Spirit and with Fire.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Notice Anointing and Baptism are used for the same experience.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“Stay in Jerusalem until you have been “clothed” with Power from on High.” Luke 24:49, Acts1:8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;This was true for the &lt;b&gt;Disciples in Jerusalem&lt;/b&gt;,&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Acts 2:4, it was also necessary for the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Samaritans&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; in Acts 8 v 14 – 17&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“Peter and John came from Jerusalem and laid hands on them to receive the Holy Spirit.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;They had already believed the Word and been baptised in water. Acts 8:12.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;This was also necessary for the &lt;b&gt;Gentile believers,&lt;/b&gt;&lt;u&gt; &lt;/u&gt;like Cornelius and his family as they heard the Gospel.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Acts 10: 44 – 46.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;They had their own day of Salvation and Pentecost. It was also true for the &lt;b&gt;Gentiles at Ephesus&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Acts 19:4 – 6.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Those receiving the Spirit, usually used some gift of the Holy Spirit, like Tongues or Prophecy, when the Holy Spirit cam upon them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;2.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Will I receive Power to serve Jesus in the fulfilment of His calling on my life ?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Yes you will.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“You will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes &lt;u&gt;upon&lt;/u&gt; you.”&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Acts 1:8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“Signs and Wonders were done by the Apostles&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Acts 2:43, and by Stephen, &amp;amp; Philip &amp;amp; Paul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;who were not of the 12 Apostles but called and anointed ordinary men.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;We are all called to heal the sick and testify to the King and His Kingdom.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Luke 10:9,17&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;3.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Can I receive and use the gifts of the Holy Spirit like Jesus and the Apostles did&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;.” Yes, you can.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“For we were all baptised by one Spirit into one body…and were given the One Spirit to drink.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Read through 1 Corinthians 12,&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;“There are different kinds of Gifts but the One Spirit.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;1 Cor 12: 4 – 6.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;“Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given.”&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;1 Corinthians 12 :7 – 11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The Apostles used the Gifts of the Spirit in their Ministry, just like Jesus did in his Ministry.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;In Acts 3, Peter heals the man lame from birth.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;He uses the….&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Gift of Discernment -&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Look at us… and he “sees” the man has faith to be healed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The Gift of Faith… what I have I give you.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The Gift of Prophecy… to speak it out before it happens.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The Gift of Healing…I give you in the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Nothing was apparently happening so Peter uses the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Gift of Wisdom… he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up, then came the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Gift of Miracles… the man’s feet and ankles became strong…a miracle, he had never walked.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;and his brain had never learned, for him to be able to walk.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;So we disciples of Jesus can and should be Anointed with the Holy Spirit and with Power to minister and use the gifts of the Holy Spirit to encourage, to heal and deliver people from the enemies control, and destroy the works of the devil, sin, sickness, spirits, &amp;amp; death. 1 John 3 v 8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;So it becomes clear every Christian needs to experience these two works of the Holy Spirit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -8.25pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;1.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;We need to be born again of the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit &lt;b&gt;in us&lt;/b&gt;, and become partakers of the Divine Nature and Live like Jesus, manifesting the Fruits of the Holy Spirit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -8.25pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -8.25pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;2.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;We need to be anointed with the Holy Spirit, receiving his Power, as he comes &lt;b&gt;upon&lt;/b&gt; us. (He is already &lt;b&gt;in us&lt;/b&gt;, because we have been born again.)&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;He will give us power to heal and deliver the captives and receive and use all the gifts of the Spirit as we need them.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;We are then to do what Jesus did and even greater things.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;John&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;14:12&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -8.25pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: -8.7pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Then we can fulfil the commission of Jesus……Luke 9 &amp;amp; Luke 10……&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: -8.7pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“As the Father sent me, so I am sending you.”&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;So let’s eagerly seek Jesus for His Anointing and then go and do what he said to do….&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: -8.7pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: -8.7pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;That His Kingdom may come and His will be done…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;“In the Power of His Holy Spirit.”&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt -27pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 8pt;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm -8.7pt 0.0001pt 36pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 8pt;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9203279421625687035-140784006308426478?l=methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com/feeds/140784006308426478/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9203279421625687035&amp;postID=140784006308426478' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9203279421625687035/posts/default/140784006308426478'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9203279421625687035/posts/default/140784006308426478'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com/2011/06/kingdom-anointing-power-for-service.html' title='The kingdom anointing - power for service'/><author><name>David</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9203279421625687035.post-1241124852252036662</id><published>2011-02-27T08:14:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-28T11:59:36.577-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Navigating the internet dating sites</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e3FOqDZrO8Y/TWp3TiVVQ5I/AAAAAAAACRE/1BJ0FPEp-wg/s1600/eharmony.jpeg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="166" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e3FOqDZrO8Y/TWp3TiVVQ5I/AAAAAAAACRE/1BJ0FPEp-wg/s200/eharmony.jpeg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;One of my friends recently turned 40 and turned to internet dating in the hope of finding that elusive lifetime partner. She has written up her experience of navigating internet dating. Meanwhile if there are any good single Methodist men out there who would like an introduction, let me know.&amp;nbsp; Here is her contribution to the guest blog:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;I don't know what the general consensus&amp;nbsp;is out there with regards to internet dating.&amp;nbsp; I mean I know a number of people who have successfully met their “soulmates” through dating sites and on paper, it does all seem a very logical decision to make, almost like an arranged marriage in some ways.&amp;nbsp; You get to choose who to date on the basis of common and shared interests, what their job prospects are, where they come from, age, look etc.&amp;nbsp; What's not to like?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;I've been on a couple of dating sites myself at various points in my life and on initially signing up, threw myself with gusto into the whole thing.&amp;nbsp; I even went so far as meeting one guy many years ago and although nothing ever occurred between us, we are friends today, albeit long distance, sporadic ones.&amp;nbsp; He was really quite beautiful however had a penchant towards gorgeous Eastern European women, neither of which criteria I met.&amp;nbsp; It also turned out he'd got a couple of said ladies in the family way&amp;nbsp;so friendship was definitely the only thing on my agenda.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;However three&amp;nbsp;broken relationships later and having also turned&amp;nbsp;40 last year, I toyed with the idea of dabbling with&amp;nbsp;the whole thing&amp;nbsp;once more.&amp;nbsp; This was also at the insistence of one particular friend who had a very successful&amp;nbsp;experience with&amp;nbsp;eHarmony.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;One year on, he and his lovely lady are not only living together in urban bliss,&amp;nbsp;they're also expecting a baby this year.&amp;nbsp; That said, he did give the whole internet dating experience a whole new meaning.&amp;nbsp; Try&amp;nbsp;several times before you buy definitely&amp;nbsp;springs to mind and he certainly kissed more than his fair share of ummm, what's the term for a female frog?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;So very reluctantly and very grudgingly I signed up with &lt;a href="http://www.eharmony.co.uk/"&gt;eHarmony&lt;/a&gt;, sold on the idea of their "patented matching system....developed after extensive research into marital satisfaction",&amp;nbsp;thinking with a small pinprick of excitement, that&amp;nbsp;my "perfect partner" could be out there somewhere.&amp;nbsp; I answered every question as honestly as I could and even said I was willing to look at men up to 150 miles away, in fact I was flexibility personified.&amp;nbsp; More than&amp;nbsp;200 questions and probably more than two hours later, I sat back waiting for all my matches.&amp;nbsp; Only to be told:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;"We're very sorry, but our matching system cannot predict good matches for you"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;I'm sorry, what?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;And then went on to say:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;"Unfortunately, based on responses to our questionnaire, we occasionally find situations where our matching system cannot identify high quality compatible matches, and this has happened in your case. Please understand that it is a result of our matching process and in no way reflects on you as a person or your ability to be in a happy relationship".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;Well why not shoot me now!&amp;nbsp; I may as well give up on my whole sad, miserable existence right now!&amp;nbsp; Believe me had I been prone to jumping, I may have gone overboard without a second thought.&amp;nbsp; I mean I was admittedly a bit nervous about being rejected by some likely or even unlikely suitors, but not an entire website!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;As a consolation prize however, they&amp;nbsp;very kindly offered me&amp;nbsp;a&amp;nbsp;"free Personality Profile" report.&amp;nbsp; Now&amp;nbsp;some of you might be thinking what the&amp;nbsp;hell is wrong with this woman?&amp;nbsp; Is she that unaesthetically pleasing that no-one unless they were blind, deaf and/or blind drunk would touch her with a barge pole?&amp;nbsp; Has she set her expectations on the Premier Division when she would in fact barely make League Two?&amp;nbsp; Is she that emotionally scarred that she is a complete basket case and again no-one unless they were blind, deaf and/or blind drunk would touch her with said barge pole?&amp;nbsp; I can see what is running through all your minds.&amp;nbsp; Well, let me put you straight.&amp;nbsp; While I may not be Elle Macpherson, I have had my fair share of George Clooney types out there let me tell you.&amp;nbsp; And I’ve been known to have a couple of relationships that have exceeded the five year mark.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;So I open my free personality profile and according to eHarmony, I am agreeable and open, focused and flexible, emotionally steady, have the right mix of outgoing and reserved, the list goes on.&amp;nbsp; I kid you not, there is not one single negative in there. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;So what am I to make of this?&amp;nbsp; If I am such a well rounded person as this profile suggests, does this mean that all the men on there are psychotic, deranged halfwits?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;So what is this moral to the story?&amp;nbsp; Do websites have a certain moral obligation to their members?&amp;nbsp; Well I don't know about that but I've since&amp;nbsp;decided to let fate take its natural course.&amp;nbsp; I’ll let you know how I get on.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Copyright material SJD.All rights reserved.2011&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9203279421625687035-1241124852252036662?l=methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com/feeds/1241124852252036662/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9203279421625687035&amp;postID=1241124852252036662' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9203279421625687035/posts/default/1241124852252036662'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9203279421625687035/posts/default/1241124852252036662'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com/2011/02/navigating-internet-dating-sites.html' title='Navigating the internet dating sites'/><author><name>David</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e3FOqDZrO8Y/TWp3TiVVQ5I/AAAAAAAACRE/1BJ0FPEp-wg/s72-c/eharmony.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9203279421625687035.post-5264128954354538304</id><published>2010-10-30T12:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-10-30T12:29:37.026-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Board of Deputies response to Methodist Conference report</title><content type='html'>The Jewish Board of Deputies response to the Methodist Conference paper&lt;a href="http://www.methodistconference.org.uk/assets/downloads/confrep-14-justice-for-palestine-israel-170510.pdf"&gt; Justice for Palestine and Israel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;On Wednesday, 30 June 2010, the Methodist Conference will consider the paper, “Justice for &lt;st1:city w:st="on"&gt;Palestine&lt;/st1:city&gt; and &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;”&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=9203279421625687035#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt; &lt;/a&gt;and debate its resolutions. Our serious concerns about the paper and its potential impact include:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0cm;" type="disc"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Its imbalance, omissions and inaccuracies&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Disturbing theological assertions and      recommendations &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Its evasion of a proper consultative process&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The risk that acceptance of such a fundamentally      flawed and partial report will set the benchmark for Methodist policy      which will, by association, be similarly flawed and partial&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The likely damage that this paper’s acceptance      will do to Methodist-Jewish relations&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;It is with profound disappointment that we, as representatives of the &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;UK&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; Jewish community, offer the following critique of the report, and in this way. We place a high value on our positive relationships with other faith communities and devote significant time and resources to creating spaces and opportunities for dialogue. Dialogue is far more preferable than a conversation through documents. However, whilst those who drafted this report spoke highly of interfaith dialogue with the Jewish community, they avoided any contact with us over the year of its development. They gave us no choice but to communicate in this way, and with so little time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;This was not the only dissonance between their word and their deed. They spoke of justice, then produced an undeniably biased report. They spoke of compassion, and then they ignored or brushed aside the suffering of those in &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; whose lives have been taken or ruined in terrorist attacks, and in wars for &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;’s survival triggered by her neighbours’ stark refusal to accept her right to exist. They spoke of a better future for Palestinians and Israelis, then advocated a narrative of delegitimisation promoted by &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;’s sworn enemies, and called for boycotts which will harm Israelis and the Palestinians that work with them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;We offer these comments in the hope that fair-minded Christians will ask for better. They will ask for a report which does not shirk from criticism of either Israelis or Palestinians, but does so on the basis of fair and impartial considerations of a range of perspectives. They will call for a process in which dialogue is not mentioned as a window-dressing, but acted on as a prerequisite. They will look to play their part in bringing about a solution which is not based on delegitimisation and divestment, but active investment and participation in projects that promote justice, peace and reconciliation for all the people of the &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Middle East&lt;/st1:place&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Our deepest disappointment comes from the fact that this tragic conflict is still ongoing after so many decades. The cycle of violence which pits populations against one another is a product of so many grievous errors and so much mistrust among both Israelis and Palestinians, underscored again in recent weeks. We share the pain that the 2009 Conference felt in its call for a Church-wide approach to the conflict, and should we be given the opportunity, we will gladly participate in prayer and action towards a fairer way forward for both Palestinians and Israelis. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Imbalance, Omissions and Inaccuracies&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;From the outset, the report takes a partial view of the conflict, contending that, “the key hindrance to security and a lasting peace for all in the region is the Occupation of Palestinian territory by the State of Israel” (2.1). The occupation is clearly a significant factor in the conflict, but it is not the only one. Indiscriminate terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians and the refusal to accept &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;’s right to exist, which existed well before the 1967 occupation and underpins much of its military component, are at least as significant. Successive Israeli governments, including the present one, have always expressed a willingness to end the occupation, with the reasonable condition that the withdrawal be part of a settlement that brings peace and security to both Israelis and Palestinians.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The clearest indicator of the lack of balance in the report is evident in its failure to live up to its own standards. It states: “Methodists are compelled to engage with the situation as it is, to bring compassion, a willingness to listen and learn from the stories of all those involved” (3.16). Of the thirteen powerful anecdotes it narrates, only one tells of the impact on Israelis of suicide bombings and indiscriminate shootings in its universities, buses, or religious seminaries. Unfortunately, this conflict has no shortage of heartbreaking tales, but this report has hardly included any of those that speak of Israeli loss, and lacks compassion for the horrors left in the wake of indiscriminate attacks by Palestinian militants on Israeli civilians.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;This is a major omission not merely for the lack of balance it imputes, but also because it fails to understand the mindset behind Israeli government and public thinking.&amp;nbsp; Governments of the Left and the Right, and the electorates that voted for them, have developed policy in response to the existential threat that has faced &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; since independence, and Jews in the region even before that. To ignore this most basic fact is to cast &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;, its government and people as pantomime villains, acting without cause or compassion, and for only the most self-serving of motives.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The history section (4) and accompanying bibliography and filmography is obviously skewed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; For example, the bibliography draws almost exclusively on &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;academics known to support the outcomes recommended by the report. Other perspectives, such as those of Howard Sachar, Anita Shapira and Martin Gilbert could and should have been included if this report was to approach objectivity. Between them, various readers of the report have noted substantial omissions or partiality throughout the paragraphs in the report. Just a few examples include:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0cm;" type="disc"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;4.4.2: The report describes a “massive increase in immigration,      including from Arab states [where] Jewish and Muslim communities...had      previously coexisted for many centuries”. But the report fails to mention      that the reason for massive Jewish immigration into &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; from Arab countries was that a      number of those Arab countries, including &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Iraq&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;      and &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Syria&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;      expelled their Jews in violent circumstances. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;4.4.4: The report omits that the context for the beginning of the Six      Day War in 1967 was that Egyptian leader Gamaal Abdul Nasser had closed      the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping, expelled the UN peacekeeping      force and moved his troops to the border.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;4.5.3: In describing the 1973 War the report informs, “A full scale      war &lt;i&gt;developed&lt;/i&gt; [italics added,      note the passive] between &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Egypt&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;,      &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Syria&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; and &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;”.      The active form might have explained that Egypt and Syria attacked Israel      on the most holy day in the Jewish calendar, the fast day of Yom Kippur,      with the explicit aim of totally destroying the Jewish state. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;4.6.4: Where the report offers, “A new Israeli Government was      elected that was opposed to the &lt;st1:city w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Oslo&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;      peace process and violence from extremists on both sides spread mistrust.      Frustration at a perceived lack of progress towards peace led to the      outbreak of a second Palestinian Intifada in 2000”, it completely fails to      mention the intervening Camp David Summit in 2000. At this summit, Israeli      Prime Minister Barak (of the left-wing Labour Party) offered Palestinian &lt;st1:personname w:st="on"&gt;President&lt;/st1:personname&gt; Yasser Arafat 91% of the West Bank      (including &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;East Jerusalem&lt;/st1:place&gt;) and 100% of      the Gaza Strip, which the latter rejected. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;In discussing the current situation in &lt;st1:city w:st="on"&gt;Gaza&lt;/st1:city&gt;,      the report omits the corresponding context in &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Southern       Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;, where 3,278 rockets and mortar shells were indiscriminately fired      in 2008 alone, endangering the lives of a million Israelis. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Where the Report mentions the      Palestinian Kairos document (section 6), it suggests that it was issued by      &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:placename w:st="on"&gt;Palestinian&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placetype w:st="on"&gt;Church&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; leaders. This is inaccurate.      The leaders themselves signed a separate statement that was far more      nuanced. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The analyses of both the Palestinian national cause and Zionism are seriously lacking. It does not mention that Hamas, as established by its overtly jihadist and antisemitic charter, is an organisation committed to the total destruction of &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;. The Israeli Government has repeatedly said that i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;f Hamas renounced violence and its aim of destroying &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;, the blockade of &lt;st1:city w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Gaza&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; would end immediately. Sadly, Hamas are not alone in these explicit aims and actions. For many decades, the PLO was also committed to the destruction of Israel by its own charter, and Arab states collectively said ‘no’ to peace with Israel, recognition of Israel or negotiation with Israel in the infamous Khartoum declaration of 1967. Whilst &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; now enjoys peaceful relations with &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Jordan&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; and &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Egypt&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;, the spirit of violent rejectionism still lives on in the public proclamations of &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Iran&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; and its proxies in &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Syria&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; and &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Lebanon&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;, including the Hizbullah militias. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Meanwhile, while pains are rightly taken to stress that many Palestinians show an impressive, non-violent resilience towards their testing predicament (2.4, Story 1), the Zionist cause is characterised by reference to extremes (such as the testimony of the ‘religious Israeli settler’ in 5.1) and highly contentious assertions as to its origins. To claim that, “The roots of the political philosophy of Zionism – the idea that the Jewish people should have a homeland of their own – were largely a development from 19&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; Century Europe” (4.2.2), does not engage with the fact that, for almost two thousand years, Jews have repeatedly asked G-d to return His people to Zion three times a day in our liturgy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Disturbing Theological Assertions and Recommendations &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;In one of its most alarming passages, the report asks the Methodist Conference, “To determine whether certain beliefs are acceptably held by Methodist members. The two areas of Zionism and Christian Zionism require exploration” (3.15). Aside from the fact that this moves towards the dangerous area of dogmatic censorship of many highly respected Methodists, it should be noted that Conference has only previously agreed to a Standing Order with reference to the Freemasons and the British National Party. It is a grim coincidence that the Hamas Charter also links a mainstream Jewish belief with freemasonry and fascism. Whilst this report tends to caricature Zionism as the preserve of the zealots of the settlement movement, ‘Zionism’, as many ideologies, denotes a wide range of views. The majority of these are fully compatible with a two-state solution, and most Jews believe in some form or other of Zionism. This document, therefore, seriously considers theologically proscribing a belief held in one form or other by most Jews. This is one of the many reasons why this poorly considered report is likely to cause a serious schism for Methodist-Jewish relations. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Furthermore, in requesting the Faith and Order Committee to come up with a response to Zionism and Christian Zionism (Resolution 14/5), it asks for particular consideration of ‘covenant’ and ‘possession’, approaches which form the basis of the theological outlooks of extremists and fundamentalists in all three Abrahamic faiths. The report even asks whether the Church should consider raising the spectre of supersessionism (3.4), a theological approach that it acknowledges has led to some of the worst excesses of Christian antisemitism. Whilst the &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:placename w:st="on"&gt;Methodist&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placetype w:st="on"&gt;Church&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; can play a constructive role in ending this conflict, adding another fundamentalism to the mix is completely the wrong contribution. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Evasion of a Proper Consultative Process&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The report is right to repeatedly call for inter faith dialogue with Jews and Muslims as a means of improving understanding of the conflict and developing joint work towards peace and reconciliation (3.2; 3.5; 7.4; Resolution 14/10). It is, therefore, deeply disappointing that no organisation representing either the &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;UK&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; Jewish or Muslim communities was consulted at any stage of this process. The polemic evident in the report’s treatment of history and theology might have been nuanced had the document gone through any kind of reasonable process of consultation. Readers will note that no mainstream Israeli or Jewish opinions are cited in the document, except for the Chief Rabbi, who is quoted out of context (3.7) in a way that distorts his well-known views.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;It has been reported that the first draft of the report was severely criticised by a number of the external readers appointed by the authors; the Council of Christians and Jews; the Forum for Discussion of Israel and Palestine; and by Christians in the Methodist Church and other denominations. Tellingly, no further draft was shared with these parties, not to mention representative organisations of UK Jewry. In view of the criticisms already levelled at this early stage, it is naïve, if not disingenuous, for the ‘basic information’ section to suggest that this document could pose ‘no risk’ to the Church, especially when the report explicitly states elsewhere that, “In the context of the Middle East, every uttered word is analysed and dissected for hidden meaning and potential bias. Methodists need to think carefully about the words they use...in their engagement with parties in the region and their supporters in &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Britain&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;” (3.13). The authors of such a report should have taken their own advice, and opted for sensitivity and dialogue instead of making a point of avoiding these considerations.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Conclusions &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The Report submitted to Conference cannot be allowed to serve as the basis for ongoing discussion and policy making within the &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:placename w:st="on"&gt;Methodist&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placetype w:st="on"&gt;Church&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;.&amp;nbsp; It is fundamentally and fatally flawed and should be rejected by Conference, to allow a balanced, comprehensive and meaningful consideration of the issues to take place, which will in turn lead to positive initiatives for reconciliation and hope for all people in the region&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;As the Chief&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="color: black; font-family: Arial;"&gt; Rabbi has said, it is a cause of concern and distress “that the &lt;st1:placename w:st="on"&gt;Methodist&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placetype w:st="on"&gt;Church&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;, which has previously worked alongside others to advance the cause of faith in 21&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Century &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Britain&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;, is prepared to consider this Report&amp;nbsp;as an acceptable publication in its name. It failed completely to present &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;’s case in an even handed manner, and represents a one sided judgment of one of the most complex conflicts in the world.&amp;nbsp; The report will do nothing to advance the cause of peace and will do great damage to interfaith relations in this country.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The Board of Deputies of British Jews and the Jewish Leadership Council commented further that “This skewed Report is the consequence of what has been a flawed process throughout; using questionable and biased sources, failing properly to consult with impartial experts, adopting a highly selective narrative and ascribing theological positions to Jews and Israelis that would not be recognised by most people.&amp;nbsp; The result is a document replete with omissions and outright misrepresentations, which can only set back interfaith relations by years and does nothing to advance the cause of promoting understanding and reconciliation in the region.&amp;nbsp; If it serves any purpose, it is to give succour to those who demonise &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; and reject a two state solution, and that should not be a position with which the &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:placename w:st="on"&gt;Methodist&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placetype w:st="on"&gt;Church&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; associates itself.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Waiting for the revised report does not mean that the Church need be inactive. The Church can, and should, give its full support to initiatives that promote education, dialogue and reconciliation between Palestinians, Israelis and others. It can recommend the Forum for Discussion of Israel and &lt;st1:city w:st="on"&gt;Palestine&lt;/st1:city&gt; is a vital resource for UK-citizens interested in learning more about the conflict, and support &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;the Olive Tree peace project brings Palestinian and Israeli students, who cannot meet in the Middle East, to live and study together in &lt;st1:city w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;London&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;. The OneVoice movement is working hard in the region and beyond to build a consensus about a peaceful two-state solution. The &lt;st1:street w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:address w:st="on"&gt;Parents Circle&lt;/st1:address&gt;&lt;/st1:street&gt; – Families Forum, referenced in the present report, brings together the relatives who have lost loved ones to the conflict, who work together to campaign against violence on all sides and should be more widely promoted.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;In both the Christian and Jewish faiths, we believe that there are few higher aspirations than the pursuit of peace. Accepting the bias and flawed attitude to inter faith relations that the report currently recommends would compromise the ability of the &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:placename w:st="on"&gt;Methodist&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placetype w:st="on"&gt;Church&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; to act as a peacemaker. We hope that the Church will choose not to become proponents of one narrative in a complex and difficult debate, but&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; rather to genuinely seek “Justice for &lt;st1:city w:st="on"&gt;Palestine&lt;/st1:city&gt; and &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;”, with compassion for all people.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;hr align="left" size="1" width="33%" /&gt;&lt;div id="ftn1"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=9203279421625687035#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9203279421625687035-5264128954354538304?l=methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com/feeds/5264128954354538304/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9203279421625687035&amp;postID=5264128954354538304' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9203279421625687035/posts/default/5264128954354538304'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9203279421625687035/posts/default/5264128954354538304'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://methodistpreacherguestpage.blogspot.com/2010/10/board-of-deputies-response-to-methodist.html' title='Board of Deputies response to Methodist Conference report'/><author><name>David</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9203279421625687035.post-4887068055414905441</id><published>2010-10-25T06:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-10-25T06:49:28.627-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Terry Wynn - Pelvic piousness</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-ZsbTKq-w9M/TMWFW04QRqI/AAAAAAAACNk/dqrxSJneBZs/s1600/Terry+Wynn.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-ZsbTKq-w9M/TMWF0rOD-xI/AAAAAAAACNo/C4lsO5ZfWvs/s1600/Terry+Wynn.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-ZsbTKq-w9M/TMWF0rOD-xI/AAAAAAAACNo/C4lsO5ZfWvs/s1600/Terry+Wynn.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Terry Wynn, a Methodist local preacher and former MEP writes:&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;When, as a former MEP, I used to chair the European Parliament’s monthly Prayer Breakfast I soon learned that it’s hard to dislike someone who you pray with. I learned to accept differences of opinion amongst friends and colleagues of other political persuasions without falling out with them. So when I recently spoke at a men’s breakfast at my own church, I stressed that what I was about to say may not be to everyone’s liking but hoped that we could discuss such issues openly. We did and the response was quite enlightening. The subject was how the Church judges homosexual people. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;I had recently been to &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;New Zealand&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; and the &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;USA&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; and between them I have come away strengthened by a line of preaching that I have been doing for some time. That is, the message of inclusiveness within our churches.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;During HOPE 2008, the German/South African evangelist, Suzette Hattingh, led a week long series of events in &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Wigan&lt;/st1:place&gt;. Of all her activities, two things became etched in my mind. She spoke about Christians not being judgemental, because Jesus wasn’t. Jesus would accommodate anybody, the woman at the well, the Roman officer, Samaritans, Tax collectors, prostitutes. In fact the ones he did have a go at were the Pharisees, as in Luke 11 v 46 where he criticises them for loading people with burdens they can hardly carry. That is the laws of the Old Testament that made such ritual demands.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;The second thing was she said that Christianity is not about Religion, but about having a personal relationship with Jesus.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;How does The Methodist Church measure up to these two statements?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Too many people outside the church, have been given the impression that the Gospel is all about “Big Brother is watching you” and he’s gonna get you. If you ever watch the religious channels on TV, and, in the &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;UK&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;, there are loads of them; too often the message is all about sin and God’s retribution. Theirs is the God of the Old Testament, the God of power, law, judgement, hell-fire and damnation, with God ready to zap you at any time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Message &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;As Steve Chalke says, “What kind of message is that for the single mum trying to bring up her kids with little resources? What type of hope is that for the kids on our streets, some who have only known a life of abuse at the hands of those they thought they could trust? What kind of liberation does that offer the lonely, the redundant, the homeless, the forgotten, the cheated, the vulnerable or the countless individuals, young and old, who suffer from an acute sense of failure, or lack of self-esteem? What kind of good news is that for humanity as a whole? What often passes for the Gospel might lead to a faith to die by, but offers little hope to live by.” I would add, what kind of love does that offer people who are gay?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h2 style="-moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal;"&gt;The worst part is, it’s hardly the message of Jesus when he said: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal;"&gt;"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed to proclaim the year of the Lord's favour." (Luke 4:17-19&amp;nbsp;)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;In today’s world the church doesn’t get publicity for all the good works it does. The Roman Catholic Church will be forever remembered for the cases of abuse in &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;Ireland&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; and the &lt;st1:country-region w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;USA&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; and indeed throughout the world, and quite rightly so. Few will write that just about in every slum in the world you will invariably find Catholic nuns and priests working with the poorest.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The established church is its own worst enemy. The things that make the headlines, and appear to be the main concern and focus of the church are issues such as women priests or women bishops, celibacy, contraception, gay issues, abortion or stem cell research. The established church is hung up on pelvic issues. That is all the outside world seems to hear about.&amp;nbsp; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Starvation &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Last year the Pope proclaimed that homosexuality is the biggest threat to the future of humanity – an even greater threat than climate change or wars or starvation or overpopulation or the running out of energy sources or religious fanaticism. &amp;nbsp;Why? – Because he says gay couples don’t have children and, if everyone chose to be gay, this could lead to humanity dying out.&amp;nbsp; Well, apart from the facts that gays are a small percentage of the population and they don’t choose to become gay, they don’t have any fewer children than celibate priests do.&amp;nbsp; Is this really the prime message of the Catholic Church in the 21&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; century?&amp;nbsp; Is that the best hope it can offer to a world in desperate need of the message of love?&amp;nbsp; Why should modern generations want to get involved in what they consider to be hypocrisy and bigotry?&amp;nbsp; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;When a U.S. Evangelical research group – the Barna group – recently asked a large sample of non-Christian young people in their 20s which words best described Christians, they were taken back by the responses.&amp;nbsp; &lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;91% felt that Christians were “anti-homosexual”; 87% thought they were “judgmental” and 85% “hypocritical”.&amp;nbsp; What shocked them even more was that, when they asked young church attendees the same question, the same three adjectives came out on top.&amp;nbsp; 80% agreed with the anti-gay label, 52% said Christianity is judgmental, and 47% declared it hypocritical.&amp;nbsp; And these are our own young Christians.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;According to the summary of the study:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="-moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;“Non-Christians and Christians explained that beyond their recognition that Christians oppose homosexuality, they believe that Christians show excessive contempt and unloving attitudes towards gays and lesbians. One of the most frequent criticisms of young Christians was that they believe the church has made homosexuality a “bigger sin” than anything else.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="-moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="-moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;But the biggest surprise of all for the researchers was the extent to which respondents -&amp;nbsp; one in four non-Christians – said, without being prompted in any way, that modern-day Christianity no longer looked like Jesus.&amp;nbsp; So these young non-Christians who had such very little regard for the church had a great regard for Jesus.&amp;nbsp; Ten years ago&lt;i&gt;, &lt;/i&gt;when a very similar survey was carried out by the same research group, the vast majority of non-Christians under 30 had generally favorable views of Christianity.&amp;nbsp; Now, that figure is just 16%.&amp;nbsp; When asked specifically about Evangelicals, the number is even worse: only 3% of these non-Christians have positive associations with Evangelicals.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Inclusive &lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Thankfully the Methodist church doesn’t concentrate on pelvic issues. But how inclusive are we?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;When I was in &lt;st1:state w:st="on"&gt;Washington&lt;/st1:state&gt; recently, I went to &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:placename w:st="on"&gt;Foundry&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placename w:st="on"&gt;United&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placename w:st="on"&gt;Methodist&lt;/st1:placename&gt;  &lt;st1:placetype w:st="on"&gt;Church&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;. An old type of building, as broad as it was long, (and it was long). It had pews, an organ and a robed choir. It had hymns that were sung to tunes you didn’t know. Yet given all this I thought it was brilliant because of the message they preached. The sermon was “Jesus and Poverty”, one of a series of based on the Economics of Jesus. But it wasn’t only that, it was the way they welcomed everyone. They believe in the full inclusion of all people and are part of the Reconciling Congregation Movement.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Within their statement of purpose they say &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="style31"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;As we journey toward reconciliation with all, we proclaim this statement of welcome to all, including our gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender brothers and sisters: God loves you and we love you, we affirm you, and accept you, we treasure you. We welcome you.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="style31"&gt;At the same time, we recognize that there remain differences of opinion among us on issues relating to sexuality. We do not seek to erase our differences, but to journey together in faith toward greater understanding and mutual respect.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="style31"&gt;In becoming a Reconciling Congregation we believe that we are being reconciled to God and to one another.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="style31"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;I found it so refreshing and the reason is that I have become so fed up of the intolerance shown towards Gay people by so many Christians.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="style31"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Booklet &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="style31"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="style31"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;In 1993 Rev Stephen B Dawes wrote a booklet entitled “Why Bible-Believing Methodists shouldn’t eat Black Pudding”. It was to get some common sense into the debate about taking the Bible literally. If we did we take it literally we wouldn’t eat pork, shellfish, shrimps and a load of other things. We’d also stone people to death for a range of things from cursing your parents to gathering sticks on the Sabbath, from blasphemy to loss of virginity, from adultery to homosexuality.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="style31"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;When I gave my talk it was interesting that it was the usual suspects (good friends I have to say), those who take the Bible literally, who were the ones to stress that the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination and that it is not necessarily a genetic condition, (by the way, Jesus says in&amp;nbsp; Matt. 19 11-12, when talking about marriage “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;For &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;some are incapable of marriage from birth&lt;/span&gt;”).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Jesus gave us two great commandments and didn’t say we should keep these Old Testament laws that burden the people. When the adulterous woman was brought to him, he didn’t say “stone her”, when he was challenged that his disciples were picking ears of corn on the Sabbath, he didn’t say “stone them to death”.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="style31"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;In his first letter&amp;nbsp; to the Corinthians, Paul says women should be silent in church. He also says men shouldn’t have long hair but women should. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;And while Leviticus calls for homosexuals to be stoned to death, Jesus never gives a mention to it. Paul certainly does and you can understand why to some extent. In the Greek world in which Paul travelled, promiscuity was rife. But had Paul known then what we know now about our genetic make-up would he have been more understanding?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Inherit &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;He has a go at homosexuality in Romans and in 1Corinthians 6. Here he says “the wicked will not inherit the &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:placetype w:st="on"&gt;kingdom&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;  of &lt;st1:placename w:st="on"&gt;God&lt;/st1:placename&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;”.&amp;nbsp; But amongst his list of those who are “wicked” are not only Gay people but “adulterers, thieves, the greedy and drunkards.” That would limit us all somewhat.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The question is why do we signal out gay people when God has made them the way they are?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Is an adult Gay person in some way sinful because of his or her sexuality? Most would, I assume, say no as long as they are celibate. Then what are they supposed to do with all that sexual energy that God gives us? Men,&amp;nbsp; know what it’s like. How many of us could remain celibate if we were born that way?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And what do we make of Jesus’ statement in Luke 16 when he says “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Do we agree with that? The beauty of the Methodist church is that divorcees can get married in our churches. People are given a second chance.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Why do we pick and choose the texts that suit us?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;A couple of weeks ago I was sent a link to a European Christian website. As I opened it the first thing I say was “10 reasons why homosexual couples should not adopt.” I found this interesting because I’m on the Board of Trustees of Action for Children. When this issue raised its head some time ago the Catholic Church was up in arms.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Adoption &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The attitude of&amp;nbsp; Action for Children, who are experts in adoption, is, “whatever is best for the child.”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;David Kinnaman, Barna Group president and author of the book, &lt;i&gt;UnChristian: What a New Generation Really Thinks About Christianity&lt;/i&gt; commented: "When Jesus pursued people, he was much more critical of pride and much more critical of spiritual arrogance than he was of people who were sinful. And today's Christians, if you spend enough time looking at their attitudes and actions, really are not like Jesus when it comes to that."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Rick Warren, best-selling author of The Purpose-Driven Life and pastor of the massive &lt;st1:placename w:st="on"&gt;Saddleback&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placetype w:st="on"&gt;Church&lt;/st1:placetype&gt; in &lt;st1:state w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;California&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt; reflected that: "For some time now, the hands and feet of the body of Christ have been amputated, and we've been pretty much reduced to a big mouth.&amp;nbsp; We talk more than we do. It's time to reattach the limbs and let the church be the church in the 21st century."&amp;nbsp; He hoped that the church will become "known more by what it is for than what it is against.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I would love to see our churches being as inclusive as that Church in &lt;st1:state w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Washington&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;. When it was HOPE 2008, the promotional &lt;st1:stockticker w:st="on"&gt;DVD&lt;/st1:stockticker&gt; that preceded events had Joel Edwards from the Evangelical Alliance saying, “Too often the church is seen as one million wagging, condemnatory fingers. We want it to be seen as two million welcoming, open arms.”&amp;nbsp; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;What do you want?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;At the end of my talk I was amazed (why? I’m not sure) at the vast number of men who came to me afterwards to congratulate me on what I had said. Others spoke of having Gay children or brothers and the hurtful things that clergy and fellow Christians had said to them. 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